Kudos to city Rep. Beto O'Rourke for the courage he showed in proposing an amendment to the resolution expressing support for Ciudad Juarez. Mr. O'Rourke's efforts demonstrated that he, along with brave members of the El Paso City Council, have an understanding of what is tragically unfolding in the Paso del Norte region. In a sense, they are on the cutting edge of what is needed to change the direction we are going in our 40 year long "war on drugs." We may be far from Washington, but there is no reason why an honest open national debate on ending the prohibition on narcotics shouldn't begin here along the Rio Grande. Remember this is where NASA began and the first atomic bomb was detonated. It is also the home of General Black Jack Pershing and Pancho Villa, who played a leading role in the Mexican Revolution. Even the first U.S.-Mexico presidential summit took place in El Paso at the Paso del Norte Hotel, when President William H. Taft met with President Porfirio Diaz in 1910. Pasenos are risk takers.
As a former mayor, I understand the position taken by Mayor John Cook, when he decided to veto the resolution at the last moment. [link] The City of El Paso is dependent in many ways on both the Texas state government and the United States federal government for funding of many important projects. Tweaking their noses could have unpleasant consequences. U.S. Rep. Silvestre Reyes, who has done a great job as the region's representative, was chief of the Border Patrol for many years. Given the fact that he was involved in the "war on drugs" and interdiction here along the border, he may have reservations about launching a national debate at City Council. Nevertheless, given President-elect Barack Obama's philosophy of "Yes, we can change," this seems a propitious moment to give El Paso center stage at the national level. Also the simple truth that the last three presidents have experimented with illegal drugs, like cocaine or marijuana, makes it a most apropos time to initiate a national debate.
Back in 1969, when I was assigned to Mexico as a vice consul with our Embassy, the budget for DEA , formerly the Bureau of Narcotics and Dangerous Drugs, was less than $70 million dollars. In 1970, President Richard Nixon literally closed the U.S.-Mexican border, when he launched "Operation Intercept." Its intent was to shut off drugs flowing into the United States from south of the border. It failed. In 1981, I was posted to Ciudad Juarez as the American consul general. During my tenure there, DEA's budget increased to $365 million by 1985. As a point of interest, I lived in an official residence in Colonia Campestre, directly across the street the street from the Mexican federal security representative, who was then alleged to be the largest drug dealer in Mexico. He was gunned down in Cancun, along with members of his family, during this period. There were also unfortunate victims of the drug trade including a colleague of mine, former Juarez Chief of Police, Captain Cucu Ruvalcaba, who was assassinated along with his young sons by members of cartels. Bullet riddled bodies were also regularly found strewn around the Salamayuca area south of the city and in "las afueras."
It was during this period of time that the murder of DEA agent Kiki Camarena in Guadalajara occurred.
Concurrently, the creation of cartels exploded along the border and vast quantities of drugs moved across the border. Notwithstanding the efforts of DEA, along with U.S. Immigration, U.S. Customs, the Border Patrol and the Department of Agriculture, drug flows into the United States increased manifold. Violence multiplied significantly during that same time frame and Ciudad Juarez became notorious for its "narcotraficantes." Unfortunately, a number of well-known families in Ciudad Juarez were subjected to unfounded rumors that they were involved in the drug trade. They were also victims of the illegal drug traffic along the border.
This past year, we saw DEA's budget increase into the billions of dollars to combat the drug trade tidal wave. Here along the border, we have seen thousands of people -- too many of them innocents -- slaughtered in Juarez and other border towns. Why they were killed is simple. Greed, drugs and a struggle to control the very lucrative drug trade, with its tentacles reaching into literally every city and town in our country. This phenomena has affected the way people live on both sides of the border. Illegal drugs have also created an enormous law enforcement presence and bureaucracy to combat the flow of drugs into the United States.
Has it been effective? Just think of the fact that the United States has incarcerated nearly 25 percent of the world's prison population. [link] The sad thing is that almost 50 percent of that population are behind bars because of drug related crimes. Couldn't monies utilized to house prisoners be better channeled to build infrastructure and educate America's youth? The American people should be questioning the federal government's policies as to how we deal with drug trafficking. Will we continue to witness our neighbor to the south become a "failed state" because of the American insatiable demand for drugs? Will we continue to see budgets and numbers balloon as we throw money at this obscene problem? When will we have a president who has the "huevos" to say "enough" to this macabre dance along the border?
As a side note, I would like to point out that if we didn't have this failed "war on drugs," the quality of life could improve along the border. Global manufacturing would be more efficient and productive. At the same time, we would be more competitive on the global stage.
Additionally, international trade and job creation would flourish in El Paso and Ciudad Juarez and construction of infrastructure would take off. Also, our military bases and schools would not be targets for illegal drugs. Even the Border Patrol could concentrate on thwarting illegal immigration. Taxes on drugs could be beneficial to the local and national economies and crime could drop significantly in border towns. While there will be detractors to this scenario, I would like to put forth the hypothesis that those who rabidly support the "war on drugs" could be construed to be saboteurs, who undermine the social well-being and economic development in our part of the world.
As a final note, I want to say bravo to the brave band of City Council representatives for putting forth the resolution. I am sure they have been subjected to "the slings and arrows of outrageous fortune." Nevertheless, now that you have gained the attention of the national media, don't drop the ball. As President George H. Bush once said "Stay the course."
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Bill Tilney was mayor of El Paso from 1991-93.















lv
January 8, 2009
I concur, it's about time we start talking about these ridiculous, money squandering laws. It's time to be pragmatic about this issue. The future looks good (i hope).
rich wright
January 8, 2009
That Bill Tilney's a smart guy.
cheech_and_chong
January 8, 2009
Mr. Tilney - with all due respect - why don't you go away. Yes, you were mayor - once - for 2 years. You left El Paso. Your 2 years as mayor were not inspiring and nothing major was accomplished. So - why should anyone here care what you have to say about the drug war and this whole discussion. Why don't you let El Pasoans that live, work, play and pay taxes here discuss this and you go do whatever it is you do. it was a waste of time and grandstanding by beto who wants to run against eliot or silvestre. it is useless chatter.
checho
January 8, 2009
This is a well written piece. Probably the best from any of the guest writies....
Another point regarding this discussion is the health related. A majority of people who use drugs including alcohol are sick. It may be physical, mental or emotional. Most drug users are treating some sort of personal problem. Many times they don't even know it because they are criticized or outcasted by using drugs. This is the society that the war on drugs has created. It is not an excuse but a fact that we live in a society where people have a lot of problems.
That's why the rich can get away with it through paying lawyers and having plastic surgery to feel better about themselves. Middle income people can support their habits by being vigilant and functional, yet dependent. While the poor committ the crimes and abuses that has filled our prison system.
Either way, all stratas of society are dealing with this epidemic and to continue to address the problem through authoratative enforcement is played out and has taken us to the end of the road.
What Beto and the others are saying is let's discuss the feasibility of building a new road. However, we have too many people living in the dark ages to understand that drug users are sick not criminals.
If we don't show the children a better way I'm afraid we've tapped out our humanity and have become clones of our past with no sustainable future.
maryp
January 8, 2009
As I have said before Mr. Tilney. Go away. If you care so much for El Paso why aren't you living here? Get a life.
Jorge Quesada
January 8, 2009
Mr. Tilney,
What idiocy! But then again, with your background as a fomer State Department employee, and 2 years of uninspiring mayoralship in El Paso, no wonder.
vato
January 8, 2009
To reiterate an earlier post, CNN's Lou Dobbs has dubbed Beto O'Rourke to be acting out of "utter cowardice and fear," while he congratulates Mayor Cook "for having political courage" on this issue.
Talk about putting the cart before the horse! Dobbs has single-handedly redefined political cowardice and courage - to their polar opposites!
You gotta be kidding !
January 8, 2009
This 'barf' from Bill Tilney is an example of the complacent, liberal, short-sighted drivel that runs amuck in this area. The term "commie-pinko-liberal" comes to mind. I think I'll copy the original article and link and send it to Ann Coulter for her to discuss nationally. If 'youse guys' want a debate, she'll bring it to the national attention and embarrass every single one of you.
jantonio
January 8, 2009
It is refreshing to encounter young people who are willing to propose a reasonable solution to the "drug" problem. Until certain drugs, such as marijuana, are legalized, controlled, taxed and sold, we will continue to experience problems such as those in Juarez. Alcohol and cigarettes are taxed and regulated and are not abused byk everyone. In my humble opinion, legalization and education will solve many problems associated with drugs. Those that want to engage in drug use will do so and the rest would refrain--they still have alcohol, a dangerous drug, far more dangerous than marijuana as an alternative. I fear that the industry established to control and incarcerate users has gotten out of hand. How many thousands of individuals who earn their salaries from the "drug industrial/incarceration complex" fear unemployment--perhaps that is why they refuse to listen to reason. Prohibition, as we found out, doesn't work!
Two seperate issues
January 8, 2009
There can be all the debating there can be, but the delusional reasoning about legalizing drugs is so off.
After citing several instances of deadly violence (then to sanguinely finish ihat thought with the flowery imaginary benefits of legalization) one can see there is need to keep enforcing drug laws.
The US is supposed to just quit because some think "it's not working?" Yet we are knee high in debt over an oil war in Iraq that has no end in site.
The "legalization" debate just hijacked the more serious issues of border violence related to the drug cartels . And people are going to be distracted with social preferences instead of the violence that needs to perpetually be addressed. The legalization group is displaying nonsense opportunism.
Mayor Cook displayed integrity and courage.
Steve
January 8, 2009
Calling Tiney a bad mayor doesn't hurt his argument, on which he is dead on.
Alex M
January 8, 2009
Drug prohibition is wrong and anti-American. People have the right to do what they want with their bodies. If we lived by prohibition logic, then we should throw people in jail who eat McDonalds. Being fat and eating unhealthy contributes millions to healthcare costs and productivity losses, so by prohibition logic we should simply incarcerate fat people. Except that would be a disaster, just like prohibition is a complete disaster. The government has no right to restrict what people do to their own bodies.
I smoke Cannabis and I'm a successful, tax-paying American. I harm no one. The DEA are terrorists with badges.
Barberito!
January 8, 2009
@ "Two Seperate Issues"
People who want to discuss solutions to our nation's great failure are "delusional?" Funny, what I consider delusional is thinking that the drug war can be won. I consider throwing billions of dollars after a failed policy delusional! I consider the use of MY tax dollars to aid in the creation of a police state, delusional, not to mention unconstitutional! Considering that the violence only gets worse and our prisons continue to burst at the seams, while drug use and abuse levels (not to mention street prices) remain the same, I contend that YOU are the one who is delusional!
All reformers want is a discussion. We've tried your way for decades, and the only thing that has changed is that the US now holds the disgraceful title of the world's largest imprisoner of its own citizens! That's correct - the US imprisons more of its own citizens than ANY OTHER nation on Earth! If that is "drug war success," I'd hate to see failure! it is NOT delusional to discuss possible ways to IMPROVE our nation!
By calling people who want to discuss changes delusional, you only demonstrate that you are in fact the one whom is deluded. Why would you immediately dismiss ANY possible solution out of hand? Don't you think there should be an unimpeded, non-partisan, and honest dialogue about the failure that is the drug war?
Fact is, change is coming. The War on Drugs is financially unsustainable. Perhaps we could have a "drug-free society," but that would entail bankrupting our nation and living under tyranny. Is that what you want? That is the way we are heading with current policy! NO COUNTRY in history has EVER been "drug-free," and no country ever will be "drug-free."
Do any of you drug warriors remember Prohibition? Do you remember that it was an abysmal failure? Do any of you remember the police corruption and the organized crime it fomented? The "War on Drugs" is the same old failed policy, with a new name. To expect the result to be any different, now THAT is delusional!
BobB
January 8, 2009
I am not a drug user and never will be. I believe drugs are generally bad for you and hope you aren't on them. I don't see drugs in my life, and don't want to see them. I even sometimes vote Republican.
That being said, I went on a rant earlier in the week about this subject, strongly supporting Beto for his willingness to speak out on the subject. In this particular guest piece, Mayor Tilney articulates in a logical and intelligent fashon what I only had time to rant about - its time to change the failed natonal strategy and end the war on drugs. Even the right-leaning and anti-intellectual El Paso Times seemed to think a discussion of this issue was in order.
I have a stong opinion here: It is time to flat out end the war on drugs, grant mass amnesty to all non-violent/single drug law offendors who are rotting away in prison, and refocus the strategy to interdiction of the harshest and most addictive drugs, and anti-drug-awareness and rehab programs. Above all, we need to take the youthful and no-so-youthful "offendors" and figure out a way to give them the opportunity to make a decent living in a more productive aspect of the workforce. Workforce programs can work here, and would certainly work better than the joke of a prison system we currently have.
It will be a tough fight, however. Perhaps even insurmountable in my lifetime. There are segments of society who for moral or business reasons (i.e., the prison contractors, the prison guards, the probation officer, etc. who make up the "criminal industrial complex" in America) will be energized to keep the war on drugs going. They have money and lobbyists pushing to keep the war going. Then there is the great middle mass of America, who simply don't want to think about the subject at all - their only care is being able to believe in an illusion that the current system is providing them a safe and secure society, which its not.
If its ever going to happen, we're going to need brave and great leaders - and a lot of voices of support - to get there.
David Herrera
January 8, 2009
There is no such thing as a war aginst drugs. That idea is not logical. What we have is a war aginst people.
End the Prohibition
January 8, 2009
Mayor Cook vetoed a *discussion*!!! ..what kind of society have the prohibitionists made for us? :(
Doc
January 8, 2009
This sounds like talk from and educated fool! Does Tilney not have children or grandchildren? Does he not care for our children? May God forgive him for he knows not what he does!
Loren
January 9, 2009
"Does Tilney not have children or grandchildren? Does he not care for our children?"
Obviously, he does care. The prohibition of drugs and dishonest rhetoric it survives on is a threat to all of us - including our children. The legalization of drugs should not be confused with an endorsement of drug use.
Drug addiction is a nasty monster of an issue that destroys lives and rips families apart. Drugs being illegal does nothing but compound this problem and create chaos.
Alfredo Araujo
January 9, 2009
Striving (or finding ways) to succeed in the war on drugs must be front and center of the political debate of a developed society. If we are serious about the problem we should encourage our civic leaders to have an honest dialogue on this matter - not only at the city and state level, but at the federal stage as well.
I agree with former mayor Tilney, El Paso/Juarez is at the center of this debate and applaud Mr. Beto O'Rourke and Council members of El Paso on this initiative. I will be reading with interest from across the Atlantic, and will make sure to vote on local elections as things develop on this topic.
Nemo
January 9, 2009
Doc, if anyone needs to do penance for their sins, it's the DrugWarriors.
The drug prohibition laws were founded on ignorance, bigotry ("Cocaine makes darkies go crazy and rape White wimmen!" "Mair-ee-wanna makes Mesikins go loco!" and other such lies) and no small amount of self-serving bureaucratic empire building at the taxpayer's expense.
The result has been the mushrooming of ineffectual (when they aren't being dangerous) government agencies that are increasingly corrosive of traditional rights and liberties with their encroachments upon basic freedoms...such as the freedom to put whatever you will in your body without having to ask Uncle's pretty-please.
The (racist) foundation is rotten, the present building is eaten with termites (corruption caused by the temptation of money or the threat of death for not cooperating) , and the money supposed to be used to fix it was wasted on other things. Now there's almost no money left, thanks to foreign wars and economic crises at home.
The bottom is dropping out of the financial well, and that means that it's time to stop trying to throw money at a problem in hopes it will go away, and actually deal with it. And the first step in that is talking about how to fix things. And that's what the Council had proposed. And they get called out for just for speaking about it.
No matter. As things get worse, more and more Border towns and cities will face the necessity of dealing with the issue of how drug prohibition creates crime , and no amount of name-calling will stop that. The debate is coming...if only because it has to.
Eric
January 9, 2009
I really hate when people bring up the children. Are you drug warriors that stupid. Drug dealers don't check ID's, regulated sales do. If you want your children protected then drugs have to be regulated, that means they would have to be legal. If the children want drugs now guess what they don't have to go far and they are not 'carded'. If a drug dealer wants to sell crack or meth to an 8 year old on the playground he can and there is nothing anyone can do about it . Why is our high school drop out rate so high, cause kids can make way more money slinging dope than slinging burgers. Drugs have been here since the dawn of time, they will always be here.
Certain drugs were made illegal not because they were dangerous, but because of the people who used them. Blacks used cocaine make it illegal, Mexicans used pot make it illegal, Chinese immigrants used smokable opium make it illegal, white middle aged housewives used liquid opium wait keep it legal cause it would be wrong and immoral to throw white housewives in jail. This is our history
End the Prohibition
January 9, 2009
Alcohol prohibition created powerful gangsters who committed brutal murders to protect their illegal incomes.
Marijuana prohibition has created powerful Cartels who commit brutal murders to protect their illegal incomes.
Licensing reputable businesses to legally produce and sell marijuana to ADULTS in safe and attractive establishments is the ONLY policy that can eliminate drug dealers from our schools and end the Cartel murders.
Anyone who favors any other policy has to answer this; where is the weed going to come from? Who is going to get rich from selling it? And will that person card their customers and refuse to sell to minors just as our supermarkets and stores do to tobacco and alcohol customers today?
ghjost
January 9, 2009
spot on, eric. Look, people, it's like this: If you care about keeping drugs out of your kids hands, legalization is the way to go. If you want your kids to be able to buy junk from any old street dealer, then support the War on (some) Drugs. The only way we can truly have drug control is with legal products. Prohibition creates a black market that is unregulated. Unregulated markets are forced to regulate themselves (ie- guns and gangs), and can pose a threat to the user of said products because the safety of the product cannot be ensured.
You can really tell that a dialog on this is doing good by the reaction of the drug war supporters on here. They wouldn't be so defensive if they didn't think just talking about this on a national level would make a difference. They know they're wrong. Prohibition is unworkable, plain and simple.
I've heard people claim what we need is to ratchet up the drug war. "Kill the druggies! That'll get 'em to stop their using." they slobber... "That's what they do in China, and the Middle East!" These are the same fools who claim our government is superior to those of the Orient. Well, you can't have it both ways. However, I'm all for speeding things up, so ok. Let's just start executing drug users en mass and then we'll see how long order stands. I'm willing to bet it won't be what the drug war supporters calling for such actions are expecting.
Bill Tilney
January 11, 2009
To: Messrs Got to be Kidding ,Cheech and Chong, Jorge Quesada and Doc. With all due respect while I appreciate your comments, they do seem to lack logic, objectivity. and a thorough grasp of the issues being discussed. Wishing you the best in 2009.
CM
January 11, 2009
Short and sweet. The time has come for open and honest debate on legalization. I am a supporter and I hope more people will consider the facts. You may be against the use but the benefits and fears about drugs you are fighting are the main reason we have the drug problem. Be informed in all aspects of life and our quality of life will improve, wake up people!!!
Jorge Quesada
January 12, 2009
Mr. Tilney,
With all due respects right back at you, please know that it is your article and your position that has no logic and it is a simple solution and an ill conceived idea to a very complicated matter. Think of your (lack of) logic first before you accuse others of lacking it. I also wish you a wonderful 2009 without the legalization of illegal drugs.
pragmatic
January 13, 2009
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carlos-raul
January 14, 2009
The industry of Homeland Security is now the primary economic force in ALL rural far West Texas Counties. Is that sustainable?
Everyone has valid points on this difficult issue, but the bottom line is that the illegal drug industry will never be crushed until drugs are legalized. My step-father, who retired from the Military as a Colonel, was raised in Detroit during Prohibition and he always commented that the moment the alcohol was legalized only then did the alcohol inspired violence end. My father, who was killed in Viet Nam, taught me that America is a country built by brave men unafraid to speak truth to power. We are at a cross-road: one path leads to the border becoming increasingly militarized and the Drug War spilling into Texas; the other path leads to legalization and the honest confrontation of drug use as a health issue.
Remember how 80% of Americans embraced the Iraq War in 2004 and now almost 80% think we were lied into the war? Do we ever learn?
If we continue the War on Drugs to its logical conclusion, half of Americans will be in prison and the other half will be guarding them. Is this the America you want?
Rey
January 22, 2009
The fact that he is the FORMER Mayor says a lot aboubt his views.He doesnt get it!
Carl Jones Sr.
March 3, 2009
Yes by all means end the prohibition! But what worries me is that those idiots who support and try to enforce this failed policy called the war on drugs will end the prohibition in only one or a few states. This will not accomplish anything because the legal states would become the source for the illegal agents to buy and then distribute to the illegal states.
Let's end prohibition in all states at the same time. You realize that there will still be problems just like there are problems with alcohol now, but the problems would be miniscule by comparison.